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Post by nkumburis on Oct 4, 2011 20:13:25 GMT -5
A post by Nick Kumburis who was searching for records on his uncle Theordore Kumburis prompted the start of this new thread, Note from Connie: Some men who were with the 106th Infantry Division during or throughout the war found themselves assigned to other divisions or free-standing units. Many of these men returned home long after the bulk of the division had returned to the states and long after the 106th Infantry Division ceased to exist. The reason was usually the need to accumulate enough points to be eligible to return to the states for discharge. It should also be noted that many me who trained with the 106th and were waiting to deploy at Camp Atterbury, were instead transferred out of the division to fill the ranks of other divisions needing manpower both before and after D-day. This thread can also include these men. Also see "transferred out and lost" in the Unit Specific notes: 106thdivision.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=remembering&action=display&thread=712Connie Units mentioned below thus far are: * 701st engineers petroleum distribution company: replies 1-3 * 16th Engineer Combat Battalion: reply #4 * 63rd Infantry Division: reply #5 * 100th Division: reply #6-8 * 118th Infantry Regiment: reply 9 |
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Post by connie on Oct 5, 2011 10:13:21 GMT -5
701st engineers petroleum distribution companyLink to Nick's post: 106thdivision.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=looking&thread=489&page=2#2187Page 1 of Nick's quest is here: 106thdivision.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=looking&action=display&thread=489&page=1Nick, Will try to get Carl's input on this and anyone else. I'll also try to do a little more leg work myself. It will be great when you hold copies of this paper in your hand. Since your great uncle was not discharged until 1946, there is a high degree of probability that sometime in the summer or early fall of 1945 he was transferred to another outfit in the ETO (out of the 106th). This happened to a lot of fellows who had not accumulated enough points to come home with (or before) the 106th returned to the states. The division was de-activated long before his discharge. My initial thought is that this 701st Engineers may have been the unit he was in after the 106th. In this case the unit that was nearly eliminated may have been his small group within his regiment within the 106th, not this one. My expertise in this area is limited, though. I'd like some other eyes on this. Don't give up your elation. You have found some valuable info. Hang in there and we'll see what can be pieced together. Connie
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Post by connie on Oct 5, 2011 10:30:31 GMT -5
701st engineers petroleum distribution companyA web search on the 701st Engineer Petrolium Distribution brought me to this site: www.thefreelibrary.com/Fueling+the+front+lines%3A+Army+pipeline+units--Part+I.-a0176473779It talks about units that helped put pipelines in place in several theaters of operations. Those in the ETO were there months before the 106th arrived. The mention of the 701st is in one short paragraph: " From Martigues to Avignon, Valence, Lyon, Dijon, then northeast through Epinal to Sarrebourg, the 696th, 697th, 701st, 784th, 1385th, and 2814th leapfrogged along the Rhone Valley. Each company completed a section and connected with the next company's completed section. The companies were responsible for laying the pipeline and constructing the dispensing terminals along their routes. An example of this was the first section laid. In 16 days, the 697th laid 35 miles of pipeline from Martigues north to the Durance River, crossing the river southeast of Avignon. That section joined up with a section already completed by the 696th, just north of that crossing. Meanwhile, the base camp would remain in place until the pipeline bypassed it, making it impractical to communicate with the units. Then the base camp would move up the line another 50 miles and the process would repeat itself. This proved to be a fast, efficient method to get the projects completed."
If I am indeed looking at the right unit this appears to be a unit that went overseas sometime before the 106th. The conclusion that your great uncle may have been transferred to this unit in the summer of 1945 (or perhaps as early as Feb. 1945) sounds logical to me. But I'll keep my eyes open. Hope more expertise will check in! I could be wrong. Connie
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Post by connie on Oct 6, 2011 10:12:14 GMT -5
701st engineers petroleum distribution company A discussion of the Point System that may have kept your Great Uncle in the ETO past the length of stay (and even past the existence) of the 106th Infantry Division can be found here: 106thdivision.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=questions&action=display&thread=573Others have been surprised to find their relative listed in a unit they had never heard of. Of course the 106th took the spotlight in the family stories. The time in the second unit began months after VE day. They had seen compat with and bonded with the men of the 106th. For more on Nick's relative's story go to: 106thdivision.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=looking&action=display&thread=489&page=2Basically, as I read it, he was in the 423rd Infantry Regiment and hospitalized with frostbite at the time when the 422 and the 423rd were surrounded and surrendered. When he returned home, long after the 106th had been de-activated, he was with the 701st Petroleum Distribution Company. His time of transfer to this unit is not absolutely clear, but it is beginning to look like that transfer may have taken place very early in 1945.
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Post by connie on Oct 20, 2011 8:13:31 GMT -5
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Post by connie on Oct 29, 2011 11:26:39 GMT -5
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Post by connie on Jul 2, 2012 8:34:20 GMT -5
100th DivisionChapeleers/ Nolen Golden This link to a family site tells the story of Nolen Golden of the reconstituted 422nd www.rongolden.us/nolen_lela.htmlBy this account Nolen Golden was just receiving his training about the time the 106th began moving toward the ETO and did not enter the 106th until April of 45, just prior to the surrender of the German pocket in St. Nazaire France. Mention is made of Regimental Commander Col. Wm. Tuttle and of a Chaplain Barker.who liked his voice and encouraged him to form a quartet and later a chorus after VE Day. The group became known as the Chapeleers and performed at regimental functions before auditioning in August of 45 for Special Services. Starting as a chapel group, they later sang popular songs, too. In September of 45 they were transferred as a group into the 375th Field Artillery Battalion of the 100th Division. The group had the honor of singing at General Patton's funeral. The site includes a photo of the Chapelers.
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Post by Jim West - Indiana Military Or on Jul 2, 2012 9:07:34 GMT -5
Chapeleers/ Nolen Golden
Hello Grandma,
I added him to the Roster, even though it was hard to determine if he was ever actually in the Division. Not my place to decide.
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Post by connie on Jul 2, 2012 9:16:40 GMT -5
Chapeleers/ Nolen Golden
Hi, Jim,
If you read the account carefully you will see that he was assigned to the reconstituted 422nd and was part of the division from April to September of 1945. He was with the group in St. Naziere when the Germans in the pocket there surrendered. The singing group was formed post VE day and performed first within the regiment. One performance was built around a the motto of then 422nd regimental commander Col. William Tuttle. The audition for special services and move to another division happened in August/ September of 1945.
Connie
PS. Thanks for the subtle announcement. To those wondering about the "Grandma" designation, I did recently become a grandparent for the 2nd time.
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Post by connie on Jun 8, 2013 10:34:10 GMT -5
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Post by connie on Aug 8, 2020 1:16:41 GMT -5
Thousands of men were transferred from the 106th Infantry Division to other divisions while the 106th awaited its own deployment at Camp Atterbury. Cecil Cope Miller from Missouri appears to be one of those men: 106thdivision.proboards.com/post/2852/threadHe was killed on July, 14, 1944 by friendly fire near St. Lo, France while serving with the 9th Infantry Division.
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